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apd Posted - 09 Oct 2011 : 20:48:00
Step 1. Trust Alessio.

Step 2. [Maintenance] Movie ID Renumber (Delete Holes). Now all your entries after the first "hole" are renumbered. What you don't know is that all the relative images have now STOPPED being linked to their original entry.

Step 3. [Special Functions] Delete All Covers Not Linked to A Movie. All those covers are moved to the Backup folder.

Step 4. Empty the Backup folder to clean up space (who wants copies of thousands of 10-50 KB files on today's HD's?). Yes, you may believe that these are copied files, just like the name "BACKUP" implies, but NO! These are your original files.

Step 5. You can now kiss countless valuable hours of work goodbye (if you have not kept a decent backup yourselves).


BTW, The field "Cover" in the Files page, still refers to your now lost cover, to remind you what you lost. Therefore, the Meter for Covers does not update (it checks the entris and not the real missing files). And the Advanced Filter for Missing Covers also does not provide the correct output. So you have to go on manually. And if your movies are easily accessible in IMDB or Amazon etc, maybe you need just a few hours. But if you have hundrends of hand picked pics for obscure movies, then you're in for weeks of a real treat!
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apd Posted - 09 Dec 2011 : 23:28:50
Dunno. Let's hope Alessio will take the time to check it.
JDommi Posted - 08 Dec 2011 : 19:27:12
I don't think so as I have tested that with the example db before. I'm completely stucked in your problem as I can't reproduce the error.
apd Posted - 08 Dec 2011 : 18:52:14
Ok, I get you. But how can it be explained that XMM did again today? Beats me. Can it be that it happens after the second time one uses
ID Renumber and Delete Covers not Linked?
JDommi Posted - 08 Dec 2011 : 16:12:44
I have recognized deleted files that have numbers of an existing movie id, BUT these pics were covers that really doesn't belong to this movie. It belonged to a previously deleted movie that was already replaced.
Aargh, how to explain in english? Here is an example: actual movie id 6 = Meltdown. The covers were 6-Crusade.jpg and 6-Meltdown.jpg. 6-Crusade was correctly removed and 6-Meltdown is still there.
apd Posted - 08 Dec 2011 : 15:15:18
Hi JD. Have you by any chance checked the covers folder before and after running "Delete All Covers Not Linked to A Movie"? I mean, the physical files, are they still the same number? And what's with the message XMM displays after "cleaning"?

I just did it again checking the covers folder. Physical contents is 6198 pix. Renumbering removes 103 entries, after Movie id 3000. I run "Delete All Covers Not Linked to A Movie" and XMM reports 6198 pix before and 5837 after. I now check the covers folder; it now contain 5837 files!!! The backup folder (which was empty) now features the original 6198 files.

Rechecking which files were deleted, I notice that most of them belong to the movies that became "holes" (this means that after I deleted them, their pix remained in the folder); but along with them, XMM removed also files that are used in entries that still exist...
JDommi Posted - 07 Dec 2011 : 08:08:08
Okay, just proceeded the same steps as you with my database (1252 movie entries).
Before cleaning: 7531 pics
After cleaning: 6170 pics

To sum all up: all needed pics are still there and nothing is missing.

Seems that in your case something else causes the problem...
apd Posted - 06 Dec 2011 : 13:57:51
I meant more than one pic per entry, so that if one was deleted it might not be noticed; so, you've got this covered.
JDommi Posted - 06 Dec 2011 : 09:16:11
I will try it again with my own db tomorrow.

What do you mean with extra pics?
I have added extra movies and shows with different scripts for testing purposes. There are front covers (more than one), fanart pics and episode pics.
apd Posted - 05 Dec 2011 : 23:46:50
3. Testing: all movies show the correct covers (although movie number and the number in cover name aren't equal)

I've said four times already that XMM does not touch the names after renumbering. They remain as they were.
I have not tested the example DB. Have you checked there are no extra pics for each movie? Maybe one of many is deleted in each entry, therefore you get this message. Also, it might be possible that the bug appears in much bigger DBs, after a certain entry id.

By that way a question: do you have saved all covers with the same name convention?
I do not name the files myself. The script does it using ID and Title: ""305-The-400-million_1"



JDommi Posted - 04 Dec 2011 : 20:48:53
I just have tested it with the example database (about 100 movies incl. episodes).
1. Removing some movies
2. Renumbering (removing gaps)
3. Testing: all movies show the correct covers (although movie number and the number in cover name aren't equal)

At this point it would be best to use the 3rd party CoverManager plugin to adjust movie number and number in cover name

By that way a question: do you have saved all covers with the same name convention?

Still to check (as I had to go to work):
- Adding new pictures to existing ones
- Cleaning unused covers

*EDIT*
- Adding new pics: ok
- Cleaning unused covers
- movies: ok
- TV shows: ok
- episodes: ok

Backup folder is identical to the cover folder!

What's strange is the message:
before cleaning 287 - after cleaning 1
Doing the cleaning a second time:
before cleaning 78 - after cleaning 1

But all pictures are still there (same as after the first cleaning)

So I really can't agree that there is a bug in this function.
apd Posted - 04 Dec 2011 : 19:53:46
So, another new version, and still no decent reply. It seems that cosmetic "improvemente" is all that is interesting for now...
apd Posted - 26 Nov 2011 : 15:17:34
No, it's not blank. As I said before: The field "Cover" in the Files page, still refers to your now lost cover


But when I used

[Special Functions] Delete All Covers Not Linked to A Movie

many files were moved to the Backup folder (which I then emptied).
Alessio Viti Posted - 26 Nov 2011 : 12:01:45
Hello APD,

I have read again the whole topic. When you do the MovieID Remumbering the Movie change the ID, thats true, but the variable "Cover", that contain the link to the first Cover File is not changed.

So, even if your old Movie ID 31 becomes Movie ID 25, the field cover should point to the right cover in any case.

Please take a look to Cover field for each entry, is this blank?
apd Posted - 26 Nov 2011 : 11:29:18
Well, yes, patience, but it's almost three months now, and still no decent answer from Ale...
NormalC Posted - 03 Nov 2011 : 09:31:17
Thank you. I will try that.
JDommi Posted - 03 Nov 2011 : 09:25:59
1. Make a new folder
2. Copy the .mdb in that folder and rename it to XXX.mdb (where XXX can be any name).
3. Copy the backup of the cover into
4. You now have to rename the cover folder to XXX_cover (where XXX must be the same as the .mdb without the extension)
5. You need further the sub folders XXX_download, XXX_thumbs and XXX_photos (the photos are the pics of the actors)
6. Now start XMM and open the XMM.mdb
If you only copy the .mdb all the subfolders are created but without any content.

To remove all the unwanted scripts from updating use the plugin CleanScripts. You can chose which script you wanna use.

I hope this will help you...

*Edit*
About the time: if you use 6 scripts for download then it can be that XMM needs a lot of time. Escpecially if you use 6 times the imdb (complete) script without checking in the advanced script options that only the desired info shall be updated. That's a little like a sisyphean task but everytime XMM updates a script this option are changed back to the default values.
NormalC Posted - 03 Nov 2011 : 04:56:37
I changed my hard drive and lost all my covers. They are there, in backup, but the Movie manager won't show them, and, it says my 1500 movies all have covers. I tried to update just the Covers, but not matter what I do the updater runs about 6 scripts and downloads dozens of covers for each movie. I only want 1 script and 1 cover per movie. The current update has taken over 12 hours to download covers for about 50 movies???
Alessio Viti Posted - 01 Nov 2011 : 09:57:06
Hello Guys,

Sorry very much for my delay. I will take a look at the problem quickly.

I was really busy these days, this is why I haven't answer to forum, but I am always here

Ale
JDommi Posted - 31 Oct 2011 : 21:24:20
Alessio has unfortunately very less time since monthes. So please be patient.
He surely will change something!
apd Posted - 31 Oct 2011 : 20:36:01
So, apparently Alessio doesn't find this important enough to address. It figures...

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