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pink
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Italy
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Posted - 08 Sep 2014 :  13:36:27  Show Profile  Edit Topic  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Topic
Ciao Ale, potresti fare in modo che nel "genere" si possano mettere più voci (realmente) indipendenti come nel "sottogenere"?

Ad esempio: per il film sui Nibelunghi, il Cinematografo mi dà AVVENTURA, DRAMMATICO, FANTASY, STORICO. Ecco, vorrei poterli mettere (manualmente) tutti come genere principale, così che quando apro la cartella AVVENTURA, trovo il film; quando apro la cartella DRAMMATICO, ritrovo il film; e così via...

Non me ne intendo per niente ma credo e spero che sia una modifica da poco (se possibile). Fammi sapere, altrimenti vado con il metodo classico di un solo genere e più sottogeneri, che però trovo insoddisfacente... Come ti ho detto mi accontenterei dell'inserimento manuale.

Ciao!

pink
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Italy
60 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  11:49:13  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Vorrei ribadire questa richiesta. Ad esempio con Pulp Fiction e IMDB, il quale lo classifica come Crime e Drama. Penso che farebbe comodo ritrovare il film in entrambi i generi.
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vinlas
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Italy
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Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  13:18:17  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Ciao,
a me risulta che è già possibile inserire più generi. Se apri la scheda del film, nella scheda Principale puoi selezionare più generi mettendo la spunta sulla voce che vuoi.
Facci sapere....

Bye
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pink
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Italy
60 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  13:57:25  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Apparentemente è così. Ma se seleziono due generi contemporaneamente, mettiamo "crime" e "drama", mi crea un nuovo genere "crime|drama". Lo stesso discorso vale per la gestione dei sottogeneri che fatta in quel modo secondo me non è molto utile.

Per me l'ideale sarebbe che lo script di IMDB catalogasse il film in ognuno dei generi indicato dal sito. Dunque, se apro il genere "crime" trovo Pulp Fiction; se apro il genere "drama" ritrovo Pulp Fiction. ancora un esempio: se io voglio vedere un film d'azione qualunque, non mi importa se è fantascientifico (genere a sé) o storico (genere a sé). Se apro il genere "action" vorrei vedere tutte le possibili declinazioni, nel futuro o nel passato.
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JDommi
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Germany
4650 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  15:14:19  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
*Google*

Che dire quando si mette un filtro sul genere nella griglia.
Per esempio: Genere contiene Fantasy

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pink
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Italy
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Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  15:48:39  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Con i filtri si può fare effettivamente quello che si vuole. Ma ciò che non capisco è il motivo per cui il genere venga gestito in questo modo. Non sarebbe tutto più semplice, immediato, godibile, fruibile, se fosse come ho indicato?
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pink
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Italy
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Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  16:29:36  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Anzi, vi chiederei la cortesia di spiegarmi in che modo (a parte i filtri) vi avvantaggiate di una tale gestione dei generi. Magari sono io che non ci arrivo... non mi sento di escluderlo.
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JDommi
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Germany
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Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  18:45:29  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
*Google*

Ale è probabilmente presume che un film viene assegnato a un genere principale . E tutto il resto appartiene al sottogenere . Questo è stato ben poi mai cambiato . Fondamentalmente Ale prende " solo " smontare tutte le voci di genere e incollare singolarmente . Ma perché ci sono così tante combinazioni e realizzazioni sulle singole pagine . Tranne, naturalmente , delle diverse lingue . Bella e sarebbe meglio, naturalmente , ma penso che il lavoro di programmazione sarebbe andare troppo per praticità .

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pink
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Italy
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Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  18:50:19  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Thank you for the answer! but i didn't understand much...

Would you reply, please, in English (i know you are good on that)?
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JDommi
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Germany
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Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  19:27:12  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Well, if my translation was as good as for your topic it's a wonder that you have understand any word of it *lol*

Ale has probably assumed that a movie is assigned to one main genre. And all the rest belongs to the subgenre. And this has been never changed. Basically Ale has "only" to extract all genres and paste it into the grid. It really would be better and more efficient your way but because of that many different combinations and spellings - apart from all the different languages - the programming effort would not be worth the result.
Maybe I'm wrong but I think there has to be some kind of dictionary to properly resolve every possible combination. If that would be so easy why do not provide such a clear category every movie site? More efficient is a filter in my opinion.

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pink
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Italy
60 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  21:03:31  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Not sure that we understand each other. If you don't mind I will try to explain the question again.

I would wish that the IMDB script read all genres of a film (exactly as shown on the IMDB webpage) and then set them, each on his own, as a primary genre.

Take the example of Pulp Fiction. IMDB says it belongs to the genres "crime" and "drama". XMM sets "crime" as the main genre, and "drama" as a secondary genre.
Therefore, in the "crime" genre folder i will find the Pulp Fiction film, but in the "drama" genre folder i won't find it because it is in the subfolder "drama" of the folder "crime".

I think it would be much better if you could find the film in both main folders "crime" and "drama"


For example: In that way, if I want to watch an "action" movie but i don't care if it is also "sci-fi" or "historical", I would find all the "action" movies that i search under the same folder "action".


I didn't understand the speech of the combinations and the programming effort, sorry.

Ciao!
Davide

Edited by - pink on 05 Feb 2016 21:06:25
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JDommi
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Germany
4650 Posts

Posted - 05 Feb 2016 :  22:52:15  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Okay, I quite didn't have understood you correctly. Translations is a topic that should be better done by google. Oops, I just see that it is not google but IM Translator thjat I have installed.

I think to remember that there was an option to store the genres as genre or to take the first as genre and the following as subgenres. I don't know if it is still existing in XMM8 but maybe that option would do the job you want?!?

No, just tested manually as I didn't have found that option anymore. Maybe it's inside the Advanced Script Options.
Ale has to separate the Genre field in XMM itself. That should not be very difficult as multiple entries are separated with the |-sign.

My first thought becasuse of the poor translation was that you want to separate entries like Horrorthriller or Horror-SF / Horror-SciFi, etc.
Now after understanding correct I fully agree to your request.

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pink
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Italy
60 Posts

Posted - 06 Feb 2016 :  17:57:57  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
I'm glad we understand each other. Especially because you approve my opinion.

Maybe Ale will consider this request...

Hope!
:)
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JDommi
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Germany
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Posted - 06 Feb 2016 :  20:16:56  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
I hope so, too!

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