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Charley
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Posted - 22 Apr 2006 :  19:17:34  Show Profile  Edit Topic  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Topic
Hi Alessio,

movies with German "Umlaute" like äöüÄÖÜß cannot be found (ofdb.de) with no tricks (like ö=oe) a.s.o. i.e. "Die üblichen Verdächtigen"

Butze2000
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Germany
15 Posts

Posted - 03 May 2006 :  14:29:28  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hey Alessio,
first of all thank you for this great program.
But this bug above reported by Charley a while ago is still a problem.
In my opinion it's a bug in the script engine because it doesn't work with any of the available scripts. I tested COVER-PARADIES, DARKTOWN.COM, FILMPOSTER-ARCHIV.DE and of course OFDB.DE and any of them will found a movie when the movietitle includes one of the german specific characters (ä,ö,ü,Ä,Ö,Ü and ß).
Would be nice if you could fix this in one of the next releases. Thanks!

See you
Butze2000
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Alessio Viti
Forum Admin

Italy
9171 Posts

Posted - 03 May 2006 :  14:53:38  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Guys,

I don't think it's a problem of XMM, but a problem of German websites. I have try just now to search for "Die üblichen Verdächtigen" in www.ofdb.com and website doesn't find any movie

If I search the same name in imdb.com I find the movie.

The problem seem to be related to websites, I really cannot do nothing I think.

If you have ideas please write me.

Alessio
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Mawu
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Germany
1036 Posts

Posted - 03 May 2006 :  15:41:52  Show Profile  Visit Mawu's Homepage  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Guys,

"Die üblichen Verdächtigen" is not a good example as it's not found on ofdb website search, too (BTW: you have to type "üblichen Verdächtigen" on website search to find it).
Better example: "Staatsanwälte küßt man nicht". Easily found by website search on OFDB and Coverparadies, also with old XMM 4.8, but not with new XMM 5.1.8. (only IMDB script works). Very Strange

Bye
Mawu
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Butze2000
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Germany
15 Posts

Posted - 03 May 2006 :  16:15:17  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hey Allesio,
i still think it's anyway a problem of XMM. The example of the movietitle Die üblichen Verdächtigen in combination with the OFDB.DE-Script isn't the best one. In the database of OFDB the german articles (der, die, das) are stored at the end of the title. So if you search for üblichen Verdächtigen, die you'll get the correct entry. But that's really not the problem of XMM. But if you try some other movietitles, like Plötzlich Prinzessin, Weiße Jungs bringen's nicht, Bärenbrüder or Lorenzos Öl, you'll see that on the website of http://www.ofdb.de/ you get hits. But when you use the same movietiles with any of the german-related XMM-scripts inside XMM, you get no single hit.
So, i hope that the problem is clear now. At least it works correct in XMM 4.8 Build1, so it has to be a problem in the new version of the script engine or XMM itself.
Thanks!

See you
Butze2000

**EDIT**
Mawu was a bit faster at typing
**/EDIT**

Edited by - Butze2000 on 03 May 2006 16:17:23
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Alessio Viti
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Italy
9171 Posts

Posted - 03 May 2006 :  16:56:46  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Guys,

I will investigate the problem, it's really strange.

I have upload just now the 5.1.9.0

Bye!

Alessio
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Butze2000
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Germany
15 Posts

Posted - 24 May 2006 :  23:13:56  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Alessio Viti

Hi Guys,

I will investigate the problem, it's really strange.

I have upload just now the 5.1.9.0

Bye!

Alessio


Hey Alessio,
are they any news regarding this strange problem. Unfortunately it's still available in the actual Release (tested all Releases up to 5.2.3.0). I hope you will find the reason for this soon. Thanks!!

See you
Butze2000
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Gandalf
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Germany
28 Posts

Posted - 24 May 2006 :  23:50:49  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi,

the prob with this script isn't only that the special german characters dont work (only with the script i.e "München" don't give a hit with the script but directly entered at the web-page)

The selecte titles arn't take to the Movietitle also. Even if the Option say so (with IMDB it works)

there is also this irritating thing that I could only work with this script for a short while and than the script stops returning Covers. But still gives me the text information regarding the Movie.

Solution is to restart EMM than it works again for nearly 10 Movie title. after that only a complete deinstall and reinstall gives me again Covers for the Movies.( the movies that this script don't get a Cover five minutes earlier.

DOES there is a other German-script?? returning all this Information

Regard
Gandalf

If life get's boring, risk it

Edited by - Gandalf on 25 May 2006 13:24:28
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Oliver678
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Germany
57 Posts

Posted - 06 Nov 2006 :  22:58:55  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Alessio

at least also in following forum posting is talked about the german umlaut problem:
http://www.binaryworks.it/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1764

I sniffed the http request of XMM while doing a web query for the movie "Bärenbrüder" via OFDB.DE.TXT script.
The sniffer captured:
GET /view.php?page=suchergebnis&Kat=DTitel&SText=B%C3%A4renbr%C3%BCder HTTP/1.1

which gives no hits as already known.

But www.ofdb.de would need a request like:
GET /view.php?page=suchergebnis&Kat=DTitel&SText=B%E4renbr%FCder HTTP/1.1


Have you already thought about implementing a substitution section for constants #MOVIE#, #SERIE# and #NAME# ?

This is how it is currently done with variables:


....
         #STARTSUBSTITUTETAGS#
....
 
#SUBSTITUTETAGS#
    #SUBSTITUTEWORD#=#160;= 
    #SUBSTITUTEWORD#=#161;=¡
#ENDSUBSTITUTETAGS#


And for the MOVIE/NAME/SERIE umlaut problem it could be helpful when having a second compile command and substitution list like ...

...
         #STARTSUBSTITUTECONSTANTS#
...
 
#SUBSTITUTECONSTANTS#
    - example for translation of german umlaut ä (ä)
    #SUBSTITUTEWORD#=%C3%A4=%E4
    #SUBSTITUTEWORD#=ä=%E4
    - example for translation of german umlaut ü (ü)
    #SUBSTITUTEWORD#=%C3%BC=%FC
    #SUBSTITUTEWORD#=ü=%FC
#ENDSUBSTITUTECONSTANTS#


What do you think about this proposal?

Oliver


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Alessio Viti
Forum Admin

Italy
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Posted - 07 Nov 2006 :  10:00:53  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Uploaded the updated script just now.

Thank you Oliver!

Alessio
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Oliver678
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Germany
57 Posts

Posted - 07 Nov 2006 :  10:13:42  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply

Hi Alessio

you should read my posting ;-).

It's not (!) a fix but a proposal how to handle german umlauts with the WEBQUERY in future versions of XMM.



Oliver
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Mawu
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Germany
1036 Posts

Posted - 22 Nov 2008 :  22:23:29  Show Profile  Visit Mawu's Homepage  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Alessio!

Any news concerning the "umlaut problem". At the moment it's a pain to import many movies containing umlaute (ä,ö,ü)at once.

Bye Byte
Mawu

www.schlemmerkino.de - Die Nr.1 für filmische Leckereien

Edited by - Mawu on 25 Nov 2008 15:11:48
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Alessio Viti
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Italy
9171 Posts

Posted - 23 Nov 2008 :  16:05:45  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Oliver,

Please sorry very much , I haven't read your post, I just wrote about the new script.

I will read it carefully tomorrow and try to make something.

Thank you again and sorry!

Alessio

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skyalex
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Germany
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Posted - 27 Nov 2008 :  18:40:55  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Is there a solution in near future possible?
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Mawu
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Germany
1036 Posts

Posted - 05 Dec 2008 :  09:22:20  Show Profile  Visit Mawu's Homepage  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Any news?

www.schlemmerkino.de - Die Nr.1 für filmische Leckereien
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Alessio Viti
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Italy
9171 Posts

Posted - 05 Dec 2008 :  23:09:20  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Guys,

I am trying to make it (the engine that will substitute the words is ready) but I am experiencing some problem.

If I put this string in internet explorer for example, it doesn't work because OFDB recognize the characters as "?".

Try this one:

http://www.ofdb.de/view.php?page=suchergebnis&Kat=DTitel&SText=B%E4renbr%FCder

Do you know why OFDB recognize "%E4" as "?" ?

Thank you,

Alessio

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Alessio Viti
Forum Admin

Italy
9171 Posts

Posted - 05 Dec 2008 :  23:40:26  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Guys,

I have upload the new OFDB just now, please let me know if works correctly.

Thank you,

Alessio

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Mawu
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Germany
1036 Posts

Posted - 07 Dec 2008 :  16:29:38  Show Profile  Visit Mawu's Homepage  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Alessio,

thank you for the update. I will test the script tomorrow.
One further comment: I do not only have the "umlaut" problem with OFDB but also with IMDB. Any solution for this?

Bye Byte and happy coding
Mawu

www.schlemmerkino.de - Die Nr.1 für filmische Leckereien
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Swissguy64
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Switzerland
9 Posts

Posted - 09 Dec 2008 :  07:54:38  Show Profile  Visit Swissguy64's Homepage  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Alessio,

for me the ofdb-script works now with the german special characters...

Thanks a lot!
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Mawu
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Germany
1036 Posts

Posted - 09 Dec 2008 :  19:24:36  Show Profile  Visit Mawu's Homepage  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Alessio,

xMM 6.5.5 works like a charm for ofdb and imdb

Thank you very much for update.

www.schlemmerkino.de - Die Nr.1 für filmische Leckereien
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Alessio Viti
Forum Admin

Italy
9171 Posts

Posted - 09 Dec 2008 :  19:31:09  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Thank you guys!

I am happy that now all problems seem to be fixed!

Alessio

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