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Alessio Viti
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Italy
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Posted - 30 Dec 2005 :  19:27:43  Show Profile  Edit Topic  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Topic
Hi to All,

I want post some screenshot of the next generation of XMM, completely re-written from scratch in .NET technology. The New XMM will be more powerful, more fast and I hope more user-friendly.

For this reason I post here screenshot and write some characteristic, so you can write me your impressions and suggestions.

The ScriptEngine is at third generation, with new functions and variables, more quick in some procedures and will be able to natively support chains of scripts. (All old script will be supported of course)

Script now will have also Configurable Options, so every user will be able to configure scripts for their personal use.

The new engine is split in two parts : the first will find the direct link of a movie, the second will only download informations. This will allow you to select all links of movies in one shot and after download all informations when you want ('Batch Import Mode'). For example in the Actual XMM 4.8 you must, for every movie, 'double click' on the link fo the movie, wait the end of the information's download and then pass to the next movie...)

Please write me your impressions and suggestions!

http://www.binaryworks.it/extrememoviemanager/images/dotnetpreview/preview1.jpg


http://www.binaryworks.it/extrememoviemanager/images/dotnetpreview/preview2.jpg
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vonskee
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Posted - 31 Dec 2005 :  00:14:42  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
quote:
The new engine is split in two parts : the first will find the direct link of a movie, the second will only download informations.

that's great. it saves muuuch time when you add maaany movies. I think this will give XMM many new users, because it helps while you have a huge database (i.e. in Excel) and want to start using XMM!

And what I see in the screenshots: it's important to keep "Continue" buttons in the same place while importing movies and I can see it is done. As for me quickness is the priority :)

Seems like a good job, looking forward to the complete version :)
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Alessio Viti
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Italy
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Posted - 31 Dec 2005 :  00:23:40  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Thank you very much Vonskee, I am trying to build the new XMM the more user-friendly and "quicker" as possible, without lose the powerful of 4.8

The new engine should solve the actual problems of XMM (I mean that you must wait until Engine has download all information for every movie).

You will be able also select more script at once (like old chains, but more "flexible").

In this new release will coexist the "quick" import and the "batch" import, and a new mode that I am trying to develop these days (I will write more details when I will sure that works )

Thank you!

Alessio
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Mawu
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Germany
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Posted - 31 Dec 2005 :  13:27:10  Show Profile  Visit Mawu's Homepage  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Alessio,

nice to hear that things will go on so quick.
One suggestion for script engine: when I use scripts for cover download I have very often more than one hit (because there are several cover versions available on the corresponding web site). It should be possible to download all at once.

Bye Bye
Mawu
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Alessio Viti
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Italy
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Posted - 31 Dec 2005 :  15:28:04  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
You mean download information from more than one link? This can be al really good idea, should be also not difficult to do with new engine.


Thank you!

Alessio

PS: The develop of the XMM 5.0 is more faster than I expect, I hope to release it before end of January
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cmaurice
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France
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Posted - 01 Jan 2006 :  20:45:25  Show Profile  Visit cmaurice's Homepage  Edit Reply  Click to see cmaurice's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hello,

great news and improvements with this future release. Great jobs !!
Do you continue to programm in VB with .NET or do you try c# with .NET ?

Cyrille
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Alessio Viti
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Italy
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Posted - 02 Jan 2006 :  07:26:03  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
I continue to program in VB, I have no experience in C# and I will need really too much much time for learn it, so I will continue to use VB

Alessio
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rokerver
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Netherlands
1 Posts

Posted - 02 Jan 2006 :  21:07:48  Show Profile  Visit rokerver's Homepage  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
First i wan't to say that XMM is the best catalog tool for movies.

I'm wondering isn't it possible to write a export funktion to a pda device. This would be very great, now i export to excel and view this on my pda. Maybe one day this is possible in a new version of XMM.

Keep up the good work !!
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Alessio Viti
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Italy
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Posted - 05 Jan 2006 :  17:14:14  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi to All, I want post new screenshots of new XMM 5.0

The new ScriptEngine is Completed! I have work hard these days but worth the pain.

As you can see in first picture now Scripts support Options (at the right), that users can quickly set by double click on it. This is a great improvement because can help you to customize scripts (like numbers of actors to download, numbers of posters, Fields format etc...). At this time every script can have 20 different options, that should be enough for now.

http://www.binaryworks.it/extrememoviemanager/images/dotnetpreview/preview3.jpg


In the second screenshot you can see the new window where you select the "direct links" of the movie (in the XMM 4.8 is the list that you must double-click to start import informations). Here you can select more that one link, and if you decide to import information from more that one script, here you will see ALL links, so you can select more that one source in one shot.

In this phase XMM will not download informations but only "Direct Links" to the movie, the next step, BATCH IMPORT, will download everything automatically (so you can do this when you sleep )

http://www.binaryworks.it/extrememoviemanager/images/dotnetpreview/preview4.jpg



In the Third Screenshot you can see the Batch Import Window at work. You can see that the middle column of the grid contains the "old" values in the movie, so only new data will be added (anyway there is a configurator for this).

http://www.binaryworks.it/extrememoviemanager/images/dotnetpreview/preview5.jpg


Please write me suggestions and impressions here in the forum.

Thank you,

Alessio

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Henry
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Posted - 05 Jan 2006 :  17:58:14  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
That's looking very nice !!!
Keep up the good (and hard) work :)
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cmaurice
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France
57 Posts

Posted - 06 Jan 2006 :  13:32:52  Show Profile  Visit cmaurice's Homepage  Edit Reply  Click to see cmaurice's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Great news Alessio !

What i could be great is for starring, director, etc... (all fields with people inside) we have a record by people in the database and not one string with all information inside as previous versions of XMM. With that, it will be easier to make search and you could for example use a table field to show information in the XMM main windows.
Same thing for genres : it will be better if we have one record by genre than a string with "Sci-Fi/Thriller" for example because after it's too difficult to make search to find movie by genres.

If you need more information about my suggestion, don't hesitate.

Cyrille

Edited by - cmaurice on 07 Jan 2006 12:44:07
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Alessio Viti
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Italy
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Posted - 07 Jan 2006 :  12:54:56  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Cyrille,

You are right about this, but It's not easy to do.

You know that there are tons of actors with the same, so when you "link" a movie with an actor, you are right it's the right one?

The problem can be "fixed" if you import information only with IMDB, the actors as you know have the (I), (II) that identify uniquely, but for the others websites? I really don't know how to do this.

Maybe I can improve better the fact that if you double-click in an actor in the "starring" field, in the actors section only these actors will be selected (I hope you understand my terrible english).

Bye!

Alessio

For example, if you "link" a movie with an actor, there can be much actors with same name in the database, so, what
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cmaurice
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France
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Posted - 08 Jan 2006 :  21:20:58  Show Profile  Visit cmaurice's Homepage  Edit Reply  Click to see cmaurice's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Cool :)

Good work and I wait this new release that will rocks all !!
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Mawu
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Germany
1027 Posts

Posted - 09 Jan 2006 :  18:04:04  Show Profile  Visit Mawu's Homepage  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Alessio!

Some further suggestions concerning script engine and webimport:
-support for import of further data formats, e.g. avi/mpeg (Trailers), txt/doc/pdf/zip/... (movie scripts like on http://www.script-o-rama.com/, nfo-files, subtitles like on http://www.subtitles.de/)?
-option to import specific data into the custom fields, e.g. when I like to import the name of the production designer into custom field 1 (with IMDB script)
-possibility to grab specific dvd info like subtitles, available languages etc via script (therefore dvd managment should be improved in general)
- cast import: separation of actor and role and storage in a table (like in Movie Collector or Movie Library)

Bye bye
Mawu
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Alessio Viti
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Italy
9171 Posts

Posted - 09 Jan 2006 :  22:25:07  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi Mawu,

The new XMM can download also Files (like the old), but I am trying to make it more powerful.

Now you can also import all custom fields (not only 10 & 11), so will be able to store here all others informations you want.

About actors I will try to do something, but I haven't work on it yet.

Thank you!

Alessio
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tumcha
Starting Member

18 Posts

Posted - 11 Jan 2006 :  15:45:51  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Scusate se non scrivo in Inglese, ma non è il mio forte.
Era da parecchio che non venivo sul forum e vedo che ci sono parecchie novità.
è in arrivo la versione5 con una nuova tecnlogia? Dagli screen sembra ottima come del resto fino adesso. Compliementi.
Ho notato che l'area membri non è più disponibile, come mai?

Ciao
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Alessio Viti
Forum Admin

Italy
9171 Posts

Posted - 11 Jan 2006 :  16:46:53  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Ciao,

Sì, dalla prossima versione XMM sarà in .NET, quindi dovrai scaricare il framework 2.0 dal sito microsoft (è gratuito).

L'area utenti registrati c'è, si trova in alto a destra in tutte le finestre.

Ciao!

Alessio
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tumcha
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Posted - 11 Jan 2006 :  17:00:39  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Sì, scusa..provavo ad accedere dalla homepage per quello mi diceva "Under Contruction..."
Quando è prevista l'uscita della versione 5? Il database precedente sarà compatibile?
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emonsalve
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Spain
24 Posts

Posted - 11 Jan 2006 :  18:33:26  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
It looks great. You have already answer a question about importing custom files. Just keep on mind 'exporting' them as well.
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emonsalve
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Spain
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Posted - 11 Jan 2006 :  19:31:03  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Regarding online scripts I would suggest that the user could select which ones he is interest ond and which he is not so at selecting scripts only those he is interested on (and the new ones) were shown. It would be a similar behaviour as we have in the offline scripts
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Alessio Viti
Forum Admin

Italy
9171 Posts

Posted - 11 Jan 2006 :  19:42:32  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi,

For script I have in mind to make a "LiveUpdate" feature (like online mode now, but more complex), where people can select the script want update and download, without take all the others).

I will post some new screenshot in few hours

The MagicScript, has I wrote, is finished. The main Window is ready at 90% (for movies), I must work on TV Series and actors, and all export and import features.

Alessio
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