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apd
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Posted - 19 May 2009 :  10:18:44  Show Profile  Edit Topic  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Topic
While sorting by length the entries appear by absolute numerical value. Entries with values 1 to 19 (minutes) are followed by entries 100 to 199. I think XMM should be able to sort the entries acknowledging the TIME value.

As an addition, I think that it would be nice to be able to create groups (i.e. up to 30 min, 31-60, etc).

JDommi
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Posted - 19 May 2009 :  10:41:10  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Hi apd,
I think groups are not good for that. Best way could be to expand the minutes with 0 like 001.
Could be easily done in script or by Ale in XMM itself.

JDommi

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apd
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Posted - 19 May 2009 :  15:34:58  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
I meant groups by duration inside XMM, to group short films. But anyway, the important thing is to have the correct sorting - XMM should "imagine" the 00 in a 1 min film ot the 0 in a 59 min film.
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kencr
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Posted - 21 May 2009 :  13:00:59  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
I think the problem lies in how the length of a film is expressed, and how the database treats it. Most of the films I've seen give the number of minutes a film lasts, followed by " min". This is a text value, and so it's sorted differently than it would be if it was just a number, without the " min" at the end.

If the time were expressed as a number, i.e. the number of minutes, there wouldn't be a problem. If the movie is downloaded using a script, it all depends on how the particular film database you download it from holds the information.

For example, suppose a film is 59 min long, some databases (e.g. IMDB) show the length as "59 min", others as just 59.

It should be possible to write a script which strips the " min" away, then turn the remaining text into a number, which would make the values consistent, regardless of which film database you download it from.

Ken Crosbie
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JDommi
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Posted - 21 May 2009 :  18:17:24  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
You're right, Ken. And of course to make it more difficult: some sites show 2 different times; With and without credits.
As example: 83:53 Min. (78:45 Min. o.A.).
For that it would be a good idea to take 2 fields for length: 1 for normal display and another (only first numerical part) for sorting, overall time or anything like that.
Well, quite easy to handle but is that really worthwhile?

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apd
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Posted - 22 May 2009 :  10:10:19  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
The "is it worth it" question is subjective - and it applies to many aspects of XMM. For me the answer is yes, because, for one it allows me to distinguish at once between short and long films in a list. If it was
implemented, it could be used in the "exclusion" filters - like "show all films by Z, except shorter than 40 min".

And anyway, if it's easy, why not have it available? :)
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JDommi
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Posted - 22 May 2009 :  10:30:17  Show Profile  Edit Reply  Reply with Quote  View user's IP address  Delete Reply
Sorry, apd ;)
Of course, if someone wants to use it - it's worth it. I only thought of the duplicate fields for this function that in most cases would be identical. But maybe Ale has a good idea to prevent two fields without cutting additional info like the second time without the credits...

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